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November 29, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
Meetic and China.com are partnering to provide online dating service to the expected 100 million eligible singles.
Two things about this that I'm sure about.
#1 Sounds like the site will be available in Engish, French and German. Ni hao?
#2 Since its launch in 2002, more than 500,000 couples have become engaged. Is that how they measure success over there, by getting engaged? That's 342 engagements a day, which makes eHarmony's 45 look pretty small.
Technorati Tags: china.com, meetic
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November 2, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
Hot on the heels of the Adult Friend Finder story, we find out that Beliefnet.com and Yahoo! Personals have gotten in bed together to create the what's being called the largest online community of spiritual daters. I met a Beliefnet staffer a few years ago at a party in Vermont. Nice woman, from what she said about Beliefnet, you never would have guessed it would turn out to be such an empire?
Beliefnet has selected Yahoo! Personals to power its popular Soulmatch dating site, providing existing Soulmatch customers with the ability to search the entire Yahoo! Personals database and sort matches by religious or spirituality preferences. Yahoo! Personals will also add Beliefnet spiritual relationship content to its site to form an online spiritual center, creating a meeting ground for daters who prioritize spirituality and faith-based compatibility.
Yahoo certainly is going after the lucrative partnerships. BeliefNet has more than 9 million members and Yahoo has 5 million unique visitors a month. A match made in... nevermind.
More at Yahoo News.
Technorati Tags: beliefnet, faith+based+compatibility, religious+dating, yahoo+personals
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October 18, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
This really should be subtitled "How To Build a Dating Site Part IV."
I will treat dating sites with respect when they do the same for their members. I try hard to say nice things about the industry, but it's difficult, and I am generally a positive person.
Dating sites think singles are sheep with credit cards tattooed on their foreheads. I look forward to the day when dating and social networking sites begin to respect their members and cater to their deeper, more evolved needs.
I have belonged to 50+ dating sites and have read over 3,000 profiles for research projects. Right now I don't belong to any dating sites, a protest against the current state of the online dating experience which gets me thinking about other things for a while.
Why is it that the sites that make the most money selling banner ads and buying inventory on social networking sites are the sites most likely not to give a crap about their members?
I'm constantly blown away by all the money dating sites are leaving on the table. Millions of people waiting at your doorstep, yet the door remains closed.
Mainstream dating sites make all the money, while more and more people are meeting on local or niche sites. The problem is, I want to belong to both, without paying multiple times.
I will pay a hell of a lot more than $20 to meet my future wife. The problem is, there is not one single site or service in the US that I would, or could, give my money to that caters to my demographic and that I have a reasonably high level of confidence in. Totally depressing. Where is the $500 hands-on service?
Where is my 7-day pass to a network of dating sites? I want to check out Yahoo, several Spark Networks properties and a few others, free and paid. Let me create a single profile that works across all of them.
Event-based dating sites are taking off, this is good to see. I made three event dates this week, that's huge compared to the usual hunt and pick on most dating sites.
Mspace is hurting the online dating industry, for now, but only a portion of it, young 20-somethings that will never make it to paying dating sites because the value proposition is so off for them. Nobody can be cool on a dating site. Who the heck wants to be a voyeur, paid or otherwise, on a dating site when we have Girls Gone Wild on Myspace?
Blogging gets boring from time to time, it's difficult to stay charged up all the time about the next new dating site. Look at Onlinepersonalswatch, Mark works in the diet industry now, scans news feeds and writes about YouTube. It's hard to stay focused when most industry news is a snooze. Social networking stole online dating's thunder, from a media and revenue standpoint. Go ahead, start another blog about social networking. When do you have time to get any work done?
PlentyOfFish is a great media story, although I often wonder how long Markus will rule the free dating world. I'm dying to check his server logs, same goes for Mate1.
Dating sites need to grow a pair and put programs into place to get rid of stale profiles. Six months is stale. Match, Yahoo and everyone else on down the line have been misleading consumers for years. Clean up your act and your database. Less profiles will lead to more money. Embrace the dynamic nature of the real-time web. A dating site database is not a card catalog, it should be a guided, rich multimedia experience, with a profile stream that flows like water. If you don't understand the concept, it's time to get smart. Email me learn more.
Europe is learning the lessons the US dating market learned 3 years ago. This was to be expected. Why then, as I thumb through the Amsterdam iDate conference proceedings, is everything about mobile dating? Haven't we been through this before? Sure, EU singles use their phone more, but why are 1/3 of all presentations about mobile dating? How big is the leading social network in Estonia and why was the CEO speaking? Why is it important to convert males to customers? Aren't females the minority?
Profile helpers are coming out of the woodwork. They all work off the same script, zzzzz, and they certainly don't scale well.
People don't join a dating site because of an expert. I would like to see how much more money sites make when they hire said "experts."
Where is the next generation of personality testing? How come I can't collaborate and take a test *with* someone?
The technical minutia of personality testing is lost on 100% of online daters, who tend to judge effectiveness on results, not weighted averages. How does one testing service differentiate from another when the mechanics and algorithm are not taken into consideration?
User-created video posted to free sites like YouTube will be huge. Major sites need to add video back into the mix. What they didn't do last time was provide privacy and progressive communication controls. Everyone emails the blonde with the big boobs, so give her the tools to protect and manage her suitors. Where are the scripts, the helper-apps to make creating a profile and video easier? Why do I have to pay someone to help me with that? There is a strong argument it should be part of the service offering from dating sites. Yup, there goes some of your margin, but the upside will be huge. Background checks I'm not so sure about adding into the monthly price, seems like an added-cost for the time being.
Speaking of background checks, how many women need to bilked out of their money or assaulted before dating sites start offering their services? I just heard from a women who was bilked out of six figures by a scammer on Match. And she wants to sue. I have a hard time sympathizing with people who get scammed. Being lonely certainly lowers the defenses.
Dating site executives often do not belong to multiple sites. That's crazy! That's as bad as singles not checking out the same-sex competition to see how they stack up.
What ever happened to live events? IRL went kaput pretty fast and Match Events fizzled for a reason. Time to try again.
Anonymous calling, Background checks, voice/chat providers, time to get in bed together, on your own you're not going anywhere fast. Userplane not included, they are the gold standard for integration and advertising models, although I don't feel comfortable with chat interface, but 125,000 websites do, what do I know.
If you work in the dating industry, go brainstorm something useful and cool for your site, create a new ad campaign, market to a new niche or tweak your search algorithm or find a new way to entice people to sign up for your site. Do something extraordinary that differentiates you from the competition.
If you're single, go outside and do something outside your comfort zone. Talk to a stranger that catches your eye, strike up a conversation with new people, they are often more likely to connect you with someone than your friends.
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October 17, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
Thomas Technologies International (sponsor of this blog), announced today that Ave Maria Singles, a premium online Catholic singles network, has kicked off the fall with the integration of the Thomas suite of personality assessment tools. Ave Maria Singles will provide its members with Thomas' personality assessment as well as Personal Feedback and Compatibility Reporting.
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October 13, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
Where did the week go? I'm busy with all sorts of client work, hence the slow posts. I'm building the next generation of online dating and social networking sites and helping solution providers build out their value proposition for top dating sites. I can't talk about much, you'll just have to see the fruits of my labors when various clients go live over the next few months.
True and Friendster: Of all the partnerships to consider... Co-branded "Love" page. Too little to late IMHO.
Spark Networks 2Q06 Financial Results: Traffic to Spark Networks properties increased 35% from May to June, to 3.7 million visitors. Record Quarterly Revenue of $17.3 Million, Q2 EBITDAS(1) Increases Over 900% to $2.6 Million, Six Month EBITDAS of $6.0 Million - Matches Full Year 2005 Total, Six Month Net Income of $1.0 Million; Quarterly Net Income of $327,000. SAC for the Company as a whole in the second quarter of 2006 was $34.45, an increase of 8% compared to $31.93 from the same period last year.
Pinger has unveiled the first carrier-independent instant voice messaging service for mobile phones. Pinger is a new communications tool that lets you send voice messages directly to individuals or groups as instantly and efficiently as email or text messaging. The service works on mobile phones from all major U.S. carriers. Following a one-month beta test, Pinger today introduced a new feature that allows MySpace users to post voice comments to their MySpace friends' pages from their mobile phone. You can also be notified of new Pinger messages with a MySpace message.
This is going to be useful in several contexts. Progressive communication is a hot topic in online dating and social networking. Pinger may work it's way into the wink->email->IM->phone->F2F communication style followed by so many sites. I love the idea of being able to leave a message without actually having to talk to people.
Meez and Paltalk Team Up: Mashable is surprised Meeze partnered up with PalTalk.
Eight Social Networking sites for men who love men.
Marketwatch: Today, there are 3.2 million visiting the country's biggest online dating service from home each month, and 4.9 million, if you include those checking out their prospects at work. Match.com generated $248 million in sales last year and is on a run-rate to generate $312 million this year. Siminoff says that his network will do about $70 million in sales. And, he's estimating that privately-held eHarmony and Yahoo Personals generated about $165 million and $100 million, respectively. Just adding those big four alone gets you closer to $600 million. Still, that's chump change compared to the roughly $12 billion in advertising online.
The blog continues to be a problem. Updownupdownup. I either need to get it fixed or go back to my own blog.
You have got to be kidding: Text message people by looking up their license place at SearchPlates.com.
Sam Wick joins Userplane as head of business development.
Technorati Tags: meez, research, voice+messaging, paltalk, pinger, searchplates
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August 30, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
Thomas Technologies International, a leader in private-label behavioral assessment software and related personality reporting, has partnered with JLove LLC to offer JType™– a customized suite of Thomas' web-dating applications.
Yoav Cohen, JLove’s founder and CEO:
JLove caters to professional, educated, serious minded Jewish singles looking for solid relationships. We're committed to providing our members with quality features that actually make dating easier. We believe members become subscribers when they see value. Personality tests and compatibility reporting are a key part of JLove's strategy for providing this.
The first of its kind in the Jewish dating market, JType™ Personality Typing consists of four components, which will be launched in phases:
- Thomas’ Personality Assessment (PPA) with audio and photo questions
- A Romance Profile
- Compatibility Reporting
- Personality Search
Thomas’ Personality Assessment (PPA), the first component of JType™, was launched on August 11, 2006, allowing JLove™ members to take the Thomas Personality Assessment. Members can also view other members’ personality reports in their profiles or display their own.
Astute readers will notice Yoav Cohen at the helm of JLove. I met Yoav at iDate a few years ago, when he was sporting a Matchnet (now Spark Networks) business card.
Found on the JLove home page:
Note:JLove.com is not associated with JDate.com in any way. We strongly believe that Jewish singles should register with any appropriate personals service in order to improve their chance to find their one true love.
Hmm, interesting to see that Spark and JLove share an address in Los Angeles. Makes me wonder how tightly the two companies are working together, given Cohen's past relationship with Spark.
Technorati Tags: jlove.com, personality+assessment, thomas+technologies
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July 27, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
IncrediMail, a leading software company specializing in consumer email products, has dumped partner PointMatch, to hook up with Yahoo! Personals. IncrediMail will offer a co-branded version of the Yahoo! Personals service to IncrediMail users.
As far as I know, this is the first major partnerships Yahoo! has done with a company outside of the dating space. Between this deal and the traffic partnership with Match in Europe, Yahoo! appears to be going after high-value multi-million member communities to maintain their prominence in the dating market.
Note that Yahoo Personals is the exclusive dating partner in the U.S for IncrediMail, leaving worldwide partnerships an option.
I spoke with Yaron Adler, CEO of Incredimail, to find out more about the details of the deal.
According to Yaron, IncrediMail has 70 million registered users, with over 10 million active. Part of the reason for the split with PointMatch was the desire for a larger database of singles than PointMatch was able to deliver.
IncrediMail is doing a revenue share deal with Yahoo. Word on the street is that Yahoo takes around 50% of each signup. Yaron says it's early days and is not projecting any forecasts. He promised to update me in a few months.
Yaron says they will marketing IncrediMail Personals to existing users of the IncrediMail email client, WOM marketing and various channels, including banner ads, newsletters, alerts and the IncrediMail web gallery, where users can download multimedia items to attach to emails.
IncrediMail launched the new dating service, "IncrediMail Personals provided by Yahoo! Personals," this month. The service is located at http://incredimail.personals.yahoo.com.
Press release.
Technorati Tags: incredimail, yahoo+personals
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Posted by Dave Evans
Andy Arnott, CTO of Collaboradate says that Match is running Google ads on people's profile pages.
If you have logged into Match.com you have seen a new "ads provided by google" section. Did match finally wake up to the fact that they will be pushed out of the market? Many of the free dating sites have been insisting, (including myself) that they would have to adapt to an ad based model, but I am surprised to actually see it.
I'm surprised Match would resort to Google Adwords, doesn't IAC already own an ad serving network somewhere? If you pay $20 a month you should not be seeing semi-targeted text ads. I don't see them when I view the site with my paid membership. I hope these ads are viewable only by non-paying members.
Technorati Tags: advertising
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July 25, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
Integrated Enterprises, a mobile marketing and direct response communications holding company based in Miami, and its subsidiary Love In A Flash, LLC announce the acquisition of Rapid Dating, Inc.
RapidDating was founded by dating coach Renee Piane, author of Love Mechanics. Integrated Enterprises is the holding company for Rapid Dating.com, a leading dating/relationship venue; for Centella, LLC, a mobile payment system; for Mobile Information Network, LLC, a worldwide mobile marketing company; and for Respuesta Directa, LLC, a product development/direct response company that serves the global Hispanic Market.
Additional details besides the press release are not available at this time.
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July 6, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
Markus says that Yahoo and Match are working together in Europe. I would not have believed it unless I read this article or saw the UK Yahoo! Personals landing page. There is literally zero references to the deal in Yahoo News and a couple in Google. Judging by all the convoluted traffic sharing that appears to be going on, how badly is Yahoo hurting in EU? They have never really been able to get market share there, reaching consumers in Europe requires quite a different approach from the US one-size-fits-all marketing approach.
One of the only references I found to the search term "match.com yahoo partnership" led me to this December 2000 press release:
Match.com, a leading online dating site, announced today that it has signed an agreement with Yahoo! Inc., a leading global communications, commerce, and media company, to give people a convenient and easy way to share their personal ad listings with both Yahoo! Personals and Match.com community members.
Back then Cindy Hennesy was president of Match, and Mark Hull was Sr. Producer of Yahoo! Personals.
According to the June 15, 2006 news:
Yahoo! has struck its first UK partnership with a dating provider, to launch co-branded dating channels in the UK and Germany with global dating giant Match.com. Users of Yahoo! Personals will be offered the chance to access the Match network of services, creating the biggest online dating service in the UK.
Latest Nielsen/NetRatings figures show that Match is the largest dating provider in the UK, with over 1.6m unique users in the quarter to April 2006. In the same period Yahoo! Personals clocked up 915,000 unique users in the UK, taking second place.
Yahoo Personals UK Provided by match.com. Talk about getting your peanut butter in my chocolate. No mention of Meetic anywhere, either.
What is going on with Match's EU research firm?
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June 13, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
Match.com today announced the extension of its global relationship with MSN. The multi-year agreement expands the companies' existing partnership, which began in 2000. The MSN Dating and Personals service(1) powered by Match.com attracts more than 30 million visitors in 30 MSN markets(2) each month worldwide.
Technorati Tags: match.com, msn
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March 15, 2006
Posted by Dave Evans
A new trend is emerging where free dating sites add the phrase Skype on their home page and call themselves the next generation of online dating. Let me say it here once and for all. Starting a new dating or social networking site with a core differentiator solely based on Skype or any other VOIP service will not become profitable to a degree where the business can be considered a success.
Smart companies looking to partner with dating and social networking sites have focused on making simple integration a high priority and kept the cost low, going for market share instead of six-figure licensing deals. Adding in Skype costs as much as the time it takes for developers to add a few logos and a link on the profile page. That's clearly not enough, additional strategy and resources must be allocated to come up with a plan that will actually deliver favorable results.
I read about VerbDate at SkypeJournal. The site is a perfect example of throwing a bunch of Web 2.0 buzzwords into a blender, building 1/2 a website, launching and leaving it that way for six months. A quick search shows the site currently has 55 members. I wonder why? The site is unpolished and inconsistent and the stated goal of the company is to "to kick the incumbents big fat ass!" Then they go on to say they have partnered with Skype, which is bunk.
For two years I've been saying it costs at least $3-5 million dollars to get to the 100,000 paying subscriber mark. No one has refuted this except optimistic startup entrepreneurs who base their entire business model on "new" marketing and branding concepts and pray to the gods of viral marketing.
That's why VerbDate and it's brethren will most likely never succeed. I'm all for supporting two people in the proverbial garage starting up the next big thing, but there is a level of sophistication that a dating site needs to attain before it will be truly be taken seriously by the general public. Most of the press releases and emails I get are from sites that fail to address this important issue.
A question to those of you who run ad-supported sites, let us know in the comments what you consider a successful free site. My general take is that more people + higher quality members&site = greater revenue. I'd like to see if anyone is making more money with targeted advertising on a smaller niche site as opposed to a generic ad network serving of mortgage loan ads on a large free site.
Free social networking sites let members add all sorts of plug-in functionality for free. YouTube and 100 other companies offer free file and video-sharing applications, music players and so on to Myspacers. Most of these features don't run on the social networking site, so the cost is negligible.
Innovation for the dating and social networking industry is good, but at what cost?
Technorati Tags: verbdate, voip, progressive+communication
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August 12, 2005
Posted by Dave Evans
Much speculation this week about Googles acquiring Meetroduction, which makes location-aware social networking software. Turns out it was a false alarm. There is something to be said for chatting with local people, there are already plenty of sites and services that facilitate this type of communication. Regardless, Google is on a spending spree to shore up it's social software offerings.
[tags: google, social software]
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August 9, 2005
Posted by Dave Evans
Match, actually Happen Magazine, is hosting a live chat this Thursday August 11 at 8pm EST.
Topic: Dating etiquette explained. The two moderators are Jason Tesauro and Phineas Mollod. They are not names conjured up by spammers, but a pair who recently wrote the book The Modern Lover: A Playbook for Suitors, Spouses and Ringless Carousers.
The chat will be powered by Liveworld.
[tags: happen magazine, Liveworld, match]
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April 28, 2005
Posted by Dave Evans
It looks like the battle between dating/relationship magazines One2One Living and Tango is heating up. Tango has a relationship with PerfectMatch, which has a deal with Lifetime network. Now One2One Living has announced a new advertising campaign on the Oxygen Network. There is also a strange mention of a content media server run by NSYNC band members??? and a note that One2One does not provide a dating site anymore, preferring to stick to the content play and partner with WebDate.
Interesting that the publishers would think that single people need their own magazine. At first glance, Tango or One2One don't offer anything different from Details, FHM or Marie Claire. Tango definitely has the edge when it comes to advertising, polish and celebrity interviews, although I'm looking forward to reading the new One2One to see if anything has changed from the issue I received at iDate.
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November 30, 2004
Posted by Dave Evans
The International Association of Dating Website has launched their website. Take a moment to register yourself or your company today and make your voice heard on important legislation affecting the online dating industry.
Mission Statement
Our mission is to provide a forum for members to network, provide positive PR for the online dating industry, provide important information for members, serve as an advocate to Congress, etc. for the dating industry.
- To enable dating websites to network with one another.
- Provide a Code of Ethics for the online dating industry.
- Promote the online dating industry in a favorable light to the news media.
- Serve as an advocate for the online industry before the U.S. Congress, State Legislatures, foreign governemtns, etc.
Rich Gosse, IADW Founder:
We invite all of you to join the International Association of Dating Websites, free of charge. Join IADW now and be a part of the world's first Dating Association. Stay current with important news regarding the online dating industry, network with other site owners,You can join on our website at www.iadw.com.
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September 13, 2004
Posted by Dave Evans
We've written about Inode before. Incode was founded in 2004 to acquire, develop and commercialize innovative and profitable subscription-based eBusinesses in the online dating, information, retail, industrial, and financial services sectors. Incode's plan is to expand on KissyKat's (pet lovers dating site) current model and subscriber base. Incode is targeting KissyKat to make a significant revenue contribution to Incode's overall portfolio of subscription-based eBusinesses, including Incode's previously announced planned industrial and financial services portals. The parent company is selling it's existing apparel business as a component of the company's proposed overall restructuring plans.
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August 2, 2004
Posted by Dave Evans
Terra Lycos is selling its Lycos assets to Daum Communications. Lycos represented about 16 percent of its total earnings in 2003. Terra originally purchased Lycos, based in Waltham, Massachusetts, in May 2000 in a stock deal worth $12.5 billion.
How will this affect Matchmaker? Will Daum pump some marketing dollars into it or leave it alone? Perhaps spin it off and rebrand, or market to Asian demographic?
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November 24, 2002
Posted by Dave Evans
Ticketmaster, which owns match.com announced back in March that it was to acquire Soulmates Technology for $23M US in stock. "Soulmates delivers a private-label solution for portals seeking a customized personals interface that takes on the look and feel of their site. Through a relationship with MSN, Soulmates Technology is currently utilizing their technology to power MSN's personals in approximately 25 countries. With the capability to deliver online personals in more than 18 languages, and 32 global currencies, the acquisition of Soulmates Technology will give Match.com an immediate worldwide footprint."
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